letnja_kisha: (snegurochka)
Женя ([personal profile] letnja_kisha) wrote2004-07-06 10:16 am

About linguistics

At first I wanted to write in Russian, but then I realized it was going to be 10 times slower (because all the terminology is much more accessible in English in my brain).

Usually, at least here in the States, phonology, syntax and semantics are considered to be the most important branches of linguistics, the core of it. These three are thought to be the fundamentals, since they describe the main components of language: the actual sounds that we use to produce language, how we structure our speech, and the meaning we put into it.

Although I agree that these subjects are very important for the study of linguistics, I think that two different disciplines should be considered as the core of linguistics: sociolinguistics and cognitive linguistics. Language is intricately connected with thought, in fact, in my opinion, one is not possible without the other, hence cognitive linguistics. Language is inherently social, thus sociolinguistics.

I suppose the three current core branches, phonology, syntax and semantics, have to do with outer manifestations of language, and the two new proposed core disciplines strive to understand why these outer manifestations exist, thus all of them are important.

My interests lie more in cognitive and sociolinguistics, and I think that those two disciplines combined hold keys to many mysteries of language.

[identity profile] redscarfboy.livejournal.com 2004-07-06 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the syntax, phonology and semantics have to do more with the structure of language and the "how" whereas the socio/cognitive linguistics have to do more with the "why".

I'm mostly interested in the syntax/morphology, phonetics/phonology and historical aspects. How language functions and how it evolved and evolves. For some reason, semantics has never interested me, and sociolinguistics is downright painful for me. But I am interested in its cognitive aspects.

[identity profile] letnja-kisha.livejournal.com 2004-07-06 05:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the syntax, phonology and semantics have to do more with the structure of language and the "how" whereas the socio/cognitive linguistics have to do more with the "why".

I agree totally. Somehow though in Linguistics departments fundamentals are always phonology, syntax and semantics.

and sociolinguistics is downright painful for me

I haven't yet taken any socio courses, I'm just reading this book I got recently, and I like it so far. We'll see when I actually do take a class, how it will feel.

I like historical as well, especially everything that has to do with Slavic languages.

[identity profile] kniazhna.livejournal.com 2004-07-07 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
Copyright that.

[identity profile] pensante.livejournal.com 2004-07-09 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Это российское стремление к раздвиганию рамок, мне кажется.
Просто cognitive and socio - распечатывают лингвистику, которая с предыдущими тремя остается замкнутой на себе самой. Последнее более понятно по западным меркам.
Так недалеко и до философских обобщений дойти! А это уже почти политика. То есть сплошные рамки и решетки.

[identity profile] letnja-kisha.livejournal.com 2004-07-10 02:39 pm (UTC)(link)
"Распечатывают" - расширяют?

До философских обобщений дойти недалеко, это точно. Только почему это почти политика?

[identity profile] pensante.livejournal.com 2004-07-12 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Распечатывают, значит обращаются к другим дисциплинам. В данном случае к дисциплинам другого класса. Грубо говоря, – зная квантовую физику, возможно спроектировать лазер. Но имея в руках лазер, вряд ли удастся восстановить квантовую физику. Это если рассуждать не гипотетически.
Так обстоит дело с попыткой от языкознания прийти к психологии и философии.
А об ограничениях на социологические исследования это очень обширная тема. В эту область в Штатах по-серьезному невозможно вторгнуться.